Comments on: Good Graphs: Graphical Perception and Data Visualization http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization The Applied Theorist's Point of View Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:13:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: jmount http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-1064 jmount Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:45:41 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1064 Absolutely amazing Rosetta stone between Lattice and ggplot2: http://learnr.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/ggplot2-version-of-figures-in-lattice-multivariate-data-visualization-with-r-part-1/ Absolutely amazing Rosetta stone between Lattice and ggplot2: http://learnr.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/ggplot2-version-of-figures-in-lattice-multivariate-data-visualization-with-r-part-1/

]]> By: jmount http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-1052 jmount Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:06:53 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1052 Okay, ggplot2 is cool. Both it and lattice are very interesting (but in different ways). Okay, ggplot2 is cool. Both it and lattice are very interesting (but in different ways).

]]> By: Stuart http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-833 Stuart Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:29:49 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-833 <a href="#comment-661" rel="nofollow">@jmount </a> ggplot2 is quite nice indeed. It gets a lot of the defaults 'right'. Did you know the electronic version of the book is on-line? ( http://had.co.nz/ggplot2/book/ ) @jmount
ggplot2 is quite nice indeed. It gets a lot of the defaults ‘right’. Did you know the electronic version of the book is on-line? ( http://had.co.nz/ggplot2/book/ )

]]> By: jmount http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-661 jmount Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:24:12 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-661 Awaiting ggplot2: Elegant Graphics for Data Analysis ( http://www.amazon.com/ggplot2-Elegant-Graphics-Data-Analysis/dp/0387981403 ) to see if get gets any better. Awaiting ggplot2: Elegant Graphics for Data Analysis ( http://www.amazon.com/ggplot2-Elegant-Graphics-Data-Analysis/dp/0387981403 ) to see if get gets any better.

]]> By: jmount http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-570 jmount Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:17:07 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-570 Theres is now a <a href="http://www.win-vector.com/dfiles/GraphicalPerception.pdf" target="other" rel="nofollow">PDF version</a> (easier to print/save/email) in our <a href="http://www.win-vector.com/SelectedPapers/index.html" target="other" rel="nofollow">selected papers page</a>. Theres is now a PDF version (easier to print/save/email) in our selected papers page.

]]> By: Nina Zumel http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-543 Nina Zumel Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:46:49 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-543 <a href="#comment-542" rel="nofollow">@Brian Slesinsky </a> That's a very good point, and I agree. That figure is from Darrell Huff's discussion about misleading and sensationalistic graphs in the popular press. So a "small government" advocate would want to use the left-hand graph without the right hand one, to argue that we have too many bureaucrats on the government teat. But yes, a more balanced discussion should include both graphs, if that little wiggle around Sept/Oct is in fact a relevant wiggle. @Brian Slesinsky
That’s a very good point, and I agree. That figure is from Darrell Huff’s discussion about misleading and sensationalistic graphs in the popular press. So a “small government” advocate would want to use the left-hand graph without the right hand one, to argue that we have too many bureaucrats on the government teat.

But yes, a more balanced discussion should include both graphs, if that little wiggle around Sept/Oct is in fact a relevant wiggle.

]]> By: Brian Slesinsky http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/08/good-graphs-graphical-perception-and-data-visualization/comment-page-1/#comment-542 Brian Slesinsky Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:25:11 +0000 http://www.win-vector.com/blog/?p=296#comment-542 It seems like Figure 5 shows a good technique for communicating to a general audience that might not be reading carefully: show *both* the zoomed-out graph with baseline zero (to ensure that the big picture isn't overlooked), and a zoomed-in graph showing relevant detail? It seems like Figure 5 shows a good technique for communicating to a general audience that might not be reading carefully: show *both* the zoomed-out graph with baseline zero (to ensure that the big picture isn’t overlooked), and a zoomed-in graph showing relevant detail?

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